I think if he moves around his work bench/desk a little he can fit 3 more in there next to his red tent.  ;)

Actually the entire game was working. The monitor just had no red tones. So I'm just doing a full rebuild to fix it and make sure that I minimize future problems, or at least what bob roberts says is a rebuild.

Thanks for the info. I had found the lawnmowerman site, it's great, but I hadn't seen the A/C wireing one from bob roberts so I'll make sure to look that one over. If I happen to find one of those tv's I'll let you know if the tube fits or not.

Yeah, I found the soldered in fues. I just shook my head. Why would you solder in a fues?

No you're not getting to technical. I have a mild electrical and electronic backround mostly in the automotive field. This is totally differant but I am able to understand it and I'm trying to learn what I don't understand.

That's good that you think it's just a PCB mod to eliminate the daughter board because after looking at it, it made me start to wonder if such a thing existed. Now it makes sence. Everything I've seen about them says that they are just a pacman board. At first when I noticed that the daughter card wasn't there I thought "BOOTLEG BOARD", but then I saw the Midway Pacman logo and I knew that something had been done that I was not aware of. When I get some time I'm going to follow your link and read up on that.

Monitor wise I just noticed that the font looked differant in on set of burn in vs. the other set of burn in. I guess it could look like that if the picture was shrunk down so it is what it is. I've heard of using a TV tube but I have not been able to find one that fits the bill for this one. Even John had a list of compatible TV tubes that I read over. Either I missread it or it just didn't list one that would work. So if you know of a model that will swap please tell me. I'll start combing tv shops to see what they have lying around.

I have a kit from Bob Roberts with caps and the color transisors and resistors and a few other parts. If it still has no read tones then I guess that means that the tube is bad or I have no signal from the PCB. I guess we'll see what happens. I sort of bought this thing so I would have a good candidate to get practice on so I just decided to go ahead with the monitor rebuild. Wish me luck.

That tan wire that you spoke of is acutally a bare uninsulated strap. I'll have to try to figure out where you think it should be attached. The black wire I kind of figured it was cliped so thanks for you conformation. It will get and insulated spade connector.

Thanks tht ought to get me going for now. Believe me I'll be back with more questions.

O.k. picture links are fixed. Let me know if you can see them too.

Hold on I just noticed a problem with some of my picture links. The computers being fussy about fixing it and I have to do it one pic at a time. Give me a few minutes.

Today I found time to strip down my Mrs. Pacman. I bought it with a few problems and I'm determinded to get it working. So here are some things that I noticed and I'm wondering if you guys can help explain some of it. Keep in mind this is a Wells Gardner monitor (pic somewhere below).

This is the PCB. Notice anything missing? Isn't there suppose to be a gray ribbon cable with a daughter board mounted next to the PCB? This one does not have it and yet it still plays Mrs. Pacman. It clearly says Midway Pacman on the board and I know that Mrs Pacman is just a Pacman that's sort of modified. I'm wondering if maybe the original PCB died and someone fixed this game by installing a regular Pacman board with some Mrs. Pacman chips installed. I can see where there are chips that have hand written tags on them (Note: This game has a speed up mod so I don't know if the chips were installed for the speed up mod or to make this board play as a Mrs Pacman, or both)







Also this game has a piece of dark colored plexi-glass over the monitor screen, as it should, and with it in place I did not notice all the burn in that this tube has. Now that I've taken it out of the game it's easy to see just how bad the burn in is. It's bad so I don't know if I want to live with it or not but for now let's just assume that I'm going to live with it (if you have a good tube let me know). What I noticed is that the burn in is there twice. It looks as if thing has been through hell and back. I can see two differant types of fonts and two mazes, as if the image has been moved or shifted and then the game was used like that for a long time (again). This is another clue that this game has been broght back to life with this "other board" that I found in it (don't ask me how I didn't notice it when I looked it to buy it but it's what I have to with now).




Anyhow here's some more pictures just for fun and as long as I figured out how to post pictuers to the forum.







Notice that ground strap that's cut off? I can't find where it's suppose to go and I'm not even sure that it belongs there. Any Ideas???




Cut off ground wire? I am guessing that I should hook this back up? One end goes to the neck board. The other end goes to what I think is part of the degaus wires around the picture tube. At the neck board there is a second ground wire that also goes the the chasis as a ground.

I've been watching what he's doing too. I don't have a pole postion yet but I want one and I know the best way to fix the edge connector problem is with Adams new board.

Atari pong, Telstarmarksman (mine), Atari 2600, Atari 7800 (mine), Intelivision, Collecovision.

Oh well, I tried.

Great video. I never had a computer as a kid but my two best friends did. One a Comador 64 and the other a Tandy computer. My cousin had a Comador, Tandy, Pet, and an Atari. He was always on them too.

Did a quick search on yahoo and found this. See if it helps.

http://www.atarimax.com/freenet/freenet_material/5.8-BitComputersSupportArea/3.AtariReferenceArea/34Atari8-bitBBSListing.php

Not really into the RPG's too much but I had one for my Playstation I that I reall liked. It was called Gardians Crusade. That's the only video game that I have ever compleated.

I spent most of my life restoring old cars with my dad. There were limited ways to get parts for them but one of the best ways and one of the most fun was to go to swap meets.

So now that I'm getting into the classic arcade games, my question is are there swap meets for arcade games and parts? If so anything in the Michigan area that you guys have heard of? Also how in the world do you find out about them too. I used to (and still do) find car swap meets in old car magazines. I'm sure they are out there but I'm yet to find a magazine that deals with old arcade games or anything else that might advertise events for old arcade games.

For the record I've been finding some things on ebay or craigslist but it seems like what I'm finding on those sites is sort of limited.

No kidding. It's like a disease that you can't get rid of!  

Nice little forum you got here John.

Hi, I'm from the Detroit metro area. I have a Midway Space Invaders if 100% working condition and overall in very good condition and a Mrs. Pacman that I just recently purchased but needs a good of work. I've been into antique cars most of my life, but recently found that the classic arcade games that I remember from my childhood are pretty darn fun too. I'm doing my best to learn about these games and how to work on them. I've been enjoying watching John's video on Youtube. I've got to say I've learned a lot from his vids and I'm about to give a try to rebuilding my first monitor (just as soon as I find some time to do it). Already got the parts from the real bob Roberts. Thanks for the advice and info John!